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That some of the women who delivered at the birth center are higher risk does not change the fact that it is inappropriate to compare the neonatal death rate at the birth center to the overall US neonatal mortality rate including women of all races, gestational ages, pregnancy complications and pre-existing medical conditions.
There are statistical methods that can correct for differences is population. The aut...
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Thank you for your thoughts regarding our recent publication and your description of the excellent results being obtained in accredited birth centers across the country. It is heartening that the opportunity for TOLAC is expanding in this setting. Hopefully we will see continued increase in the hospital setting as well. Susan Stapleton is correct to point out that many aspects of our birth center practice are less gen...
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In response to the comments from Dr Tuteur regarding the neonatal death rate, many higher risk patients were delivered at the birthing center (see also the recent letter of December 17, 2012 which addressed the issue of patient selection). The following higher risk patients were allowed to deliver at the birth center: TOLAC (10%); past history of postpartum hemorrhage; postdates inductions with oligohydramnios; patients...
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The authors have not accurately represented their outcome because they compared their patients to the wrong control group, thereby making their outcomes look much better than they were.
The women who delivered at the birth center were white (race is a risk factor), low risk women at term with babies of normal weight, with no pre-existing medical illnesses and no serious pregnancy complications.
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The authors are to be commended for their efforts to meet the needs of childbearing families in their community, reporting outcome data, and excellent outcomes in this unusual birth center. Although the outcomes achieved in this unique population are very good, they are not dissimilar from those reported by researchers from American Association of Birth Centers (AABC) from 79 birth centers across the US in which clinica...
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The issue of selection bias has been raised regarding the Amish patients delivered in our out of hospital birth center. Further clarification of selection criteria may be of interest to readers. The Amish of southwest Wisconsin traditionally deliver at home and avoid hospital delivery. Our five year substudy (see paragraph 1 in RESULTS) documented 1178 Amish births in Vernon and Monroe counties. Of these, only 5 patients...
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The experience of Dr Longenecker in his work in west-central Ohio is similar to ours here in southwest Wisconsin. Most of the small hospitals in our region have also discontinued offering TOLAC after the restrictive policies advocated by ACOG in 1999. While our community hospital has continued to allow TOLAC, there is an atmosphere of fear and anxiety in younger staff out of proportion to the risks associated with TOLAC....
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Obesity is common in the Amish community of southwest Wisconsin. We did record the weight of our obstetrical patients. However as we often did not see the patients until late in pregnancy, our weight measurements are essentially "at term." For this reason, BMI calculations are not possible. 26% of our patients were greater than 90kg at term. The graph below displays weight at term in our population.
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After 30 years of clinical practice among the Amish of west-central Ohio, I applaud the authors in documenting their experience for the benefit of the rest of us and share their respect for the Amish people. Our local hospital does not "allow" TOL/VBAC, yet our Amish women continue to choose this. Most of them now birth at home, rather than face coercion to accept repeat Cesarean in the hospital setting. To me, this repre...
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Thanks for your interest in our birthing work with the Amish. Our "birth center" is really just a modified exam room equiped with a basic birthing bed and infant warmer. It measures 17' X 11' (including a 5' X 7' bathroom - no shower or tub). See Figure 1 in the electronic version. If we have 2 moms in labor, the other uses a similar exam room next door (delivering on the exam table if we are unable to move her to the bir...
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Thank you for this very interesting and carefully presented analysis of the outcomes of a unique birth center. Our Cochrane Review of Alternative versus Conventional Institutional Settings for Birth suggests that the physical characteristics of the birth setting may also play important roles in labor and birth outcomes, by influencing the behavior and emotional responses of the women and their care providers. For exam...
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May I ask whether the authors have data on what percentage of the Amish women in their study were overweight or obese?
The results of this research are being compared to what's happening in the wider American population of pregnant women and their birth experiences - and in particular, media headlines have suggested that this research may offer clues about how to reduce the nation's cesarean rate.
It's...
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The authors are commended for writing this article detailing what can happen in a "patient centered" birth center where patients values and preferences about childbirth are followed and evidence-based medicine appears to be practiced without undue concern about risk-managment and liability. Labor practices that support physiologic labor (and only intervene when deemed absolutely necessary) is associated with cesarean ra...
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