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Shared Decision Making and Motivational Interviewing: Achieving Patient-Centered Care Across the Spectrum of Health Care Problems

Glyn Elwyn, Christine Dehlendorf, Ronald M. Epstein, Katy Marrin, James White and Dominick L. Frosch
The Annals of Family Medicine May 2014, 12 (3) 270-275; DOI: https://doi.org/10.1370/afm.1615
Glyn Elwyn
1The Dartmouth Center for Health Care Delivery Science, Hanover, New Hampshire
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Christine Dehlendorf
2Departments of Family & Community Medicine, Obstetrics, Gynecology & Reproductive Sciences, and Epidemiology & Biostatistics, UCSF, San Francisco, California
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Ronald M. Epstein
3Department of Family Medicine, University of Rochester Medical Center, Rochester, New York
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Katy Marrin
4Cochrane Institute of Primary Care and Public Health, Cardiff University, Heath Park, United Kingdom
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Dominick L. Frosch
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6Department of Health Services Research, Palo Alto Medical Foundation Research Institute, Palo Alto, California
7Department of Medicine, University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
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  • Shared decision making, motivational interviewing and model integration: seeing the people in patient-centered care
    George W. Saba
    Published on: 02 June 2014
  • MI and clinical practice
    M. Barton Laws
    Published on: 19 May 2014
  • Confusion in practice and in the literature
    Larry B Mauksch
    Published on: 15 May 2014
  • Published on: (2 June 2014)
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    Shared decision making, motivational interviewing and model integration: seeing the people in patient-centered care
    • George W. Saba, Associate Program Director

    For the past 50 years, we have taken radical steps to explore what health care would look like if we focused more on relationship, interconnection, and context and less on reductionism, linearity, and dichotomy. We have struggled with the question: How can we deliver care that recognizes that we are humans first, and clinicians and patients second? In answering this, we have had to acknowledge the complexity and uncert...

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    For the past 50 years, we have taken radical steps to explore what health care would look like if we focused more on relationship, interconnection, and context and less on reductionism, linearity, and dichotomy. We have struggled with the question: How can we deliver care that recognizes that we are humans first, and clinicians and patients second? In answering this, we have had to acknowledge the complexity and uncertainty of healing and the limitations of our ability to cure. And we can no longer ignore how power, disenfranchisement and vulnerability distance patients from ourselves. To answer these vexing questions, we have developed many robust approaches, models, theories of care and full-fledged specialties (Family Medicine, Family Therapy), and patient-centered care is one of them.

    In a bold move, Elwyn and colleagues (1) first provide a guide for how to apply two well-developed patient-centered approaches across a range of clinical problems, and then go further to show how to integrate these approaches within a larger conceptual map of patient-centered care.

    Combining clinical methods is tricky business. People have very strong opinions about whether it can or should be done and, if so, when in a field's development it should be attempted. (2) One common approach is eclecticism. An individual clinician decides to use whatever methods seem best to address the patient's need at a given time, and is less concerned whether they conceptually align. Others may prefer to articulate a general epistemology that clarifies underlying values and assumptions about clinical care. From that perspective, they can better delineate the principles and skills of practice, and determine the inclusion or exclusion of new techniques or methods based on how well they fit with their larger theory. One mid-level approach considers how to integrate well established methods that, on the one hand, share some important characteristics and, on the other, relate to a broader theoretical perspective. Elwyn and colleagues seem to take this latter approach to integration.

    They take great care to succinctly provide the distinctness of the histories, methodologies, and effectiveness of their approaches to decision making and behavioral change. They also show how both approaches operate in conjunction with one another, and how they are embedded in similar principles and skills which ground them in patient centered care.

    Further, they deftly avoid falling into the common traps of model integration: reductionism (overly rigid separation of the approaches, principles or skills) and holism (merging the approaches as more or less the same). Because of this, we can study their map and compare it to our experience of the territory:

    * Do we agree or quibble with their definitions of the patient- centered care, shared decision making, and motivational interviewing? For example, both patient-centered care and shared decision making have enjoyed decades of debate on what we mean by either approach. The authors recognize the necessity to have clear definitions to ensure optimal outcome, permit rigorous research, and guarantee fidelity of training; (3)

    * Do we have alternate models of decision making and/or behavior change to offer? Some may propose other robust models of behavior change (Family Based Treatments, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy);

    * What values guide their overall integration? A natural fit would be Epstein and Street's articulation of the values underlying patient centered care. (4) Clarifying fundamental values and assumptions that underlie our approaches will deepen the discussion and guide future model development;

    * How does their integration address complex relational issues of power, fear of disclosure, and conflict that sometimes operate in clinical encounters? We have clear evidence that patients, even working with the best intentioned clinicians, are reluctant to reveal if they disagree or have questions. How does this model of integration address these often hidden dynamics and how do we account for them in ours?

    * How do we apply their proposed integration within the current constraints of clinical care? How does the increased presence of computers in exam rooms change the relationship; how much time do clinicians have to engage in shared decision making and motivational interviewing; how are other members of the health care and patient team (nurses, coaches, family members) involved; or how much training is required to ensure implementation of the combined approaches?

    How can this model integration identify the next steps-in clinical practice, theory-building, research and training? For example, both approaches (shared decision making and motivational interviewing) delineate specific behaviors for clinician and patient. This behavioral focus aids both assessment and training: researchers can determine whether the approach is correctly implemented, and faculty can articulate a coherent set of skills and evaluate if learners use them in clinical encounters. We have had sufficient experience with both approaches to realize how the larger biomedical context often nurtures a reductionistic implementation. Because of their effectiveness, both have been successfully introduced into medical training. However, learners in their eagerness to become competent and armed with an effective treatment can sometimes view them as "techniques" rather than approaches that must be grounded in meaningful relationships. Some of the same learners, months or years later, bemoan that they "MI'd their patient" to no avail or "tried SDM and it didn't work". More work needs to be done on how to help learners fully understand and build the relationships needed for the efficacy of both of these approaches. Training over time, live supervision of clinical encounters, and helping clinicians recall the humanness of their endeavor are just some of the strategies needed to counter the urge for the "short set of communication questions" that will quickly, and artificially, convey trust and caring.

    Elwyn and colleagues contend that the progress of patient-centered care depends on valuing shared decision making and motivational interviewing as core elements of good practice. I would also urge us to follow their example and take steps towards continued model building in this area where appropriate. There are many mature and evolving approaches in patient-centered communication, decision making, and behavior change. Rather than developing these approaches in isolation, we would benefit by coming together, comparing notes, seeing where we agree and disagree and further fill out the rich, complex map to guide clinicians, patients and families.

    What is bold about this work? The authors have provided a sophisticated lens which reveals who it is that grapples with the hard choices, decisions and changes in clinical care: it is simply us, a group of people who want to help and be helped and, by sharing what we know, work together to maintain hope, allay fear, and heal.

    1. Elwyn G1, Dehlendorf C, Epstein RM, Marrin K, White J, Frosch DL. Shared decision making and motivational interviewing: achieving patient- centered care across the spectrum of health care problems. Ann Fam Med. 2014 May-Jun;12(3):270-5.
    2. Liddle, HA. On the problems of eclecticism: a call for epistemologic clarification and human-scale theories. Family Process. 1982;21:243-250.
    3. Elwyn G, Frosch D, Rollnick S. Dual equipoise shared decision making: definitions for decision and behaviour support interventions. Implement Sci. 2009 Nov 18;4:75.
    4. Epstein RM, Street RL Jr. The values and value of patient-centered care. Ann Fam Med. 2011 Mar-Apr;9(2):100-3.

    Competing interests: None declared

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    Competing Interests: None declared.
  • Published on: (19 May 2014)
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    • M. Barton Laws, Assistant Professor

    There is great interest currently in applying motivational interviewing (MI) to medical practice. I fear people are often overly ambitious about this. In fact there is little compelling evidence - in my view, none -- that physicians can be taught to be proficient in MI and that this in turn can translate into better outcomes for patients.

    MI has been shown effective in behavioral counseling, but proficiency requ...

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    There is great interest currently in applying motivational interviewing (MI) to medical practice. I fear people are often overly ambitious about this. In fact there is little compelling evidence - in my view, none -- that physicians can be taught to be proficient in MI and that this in turn can translate into better outcomes for patients.

    MI has been shown effective in behavioral counseling, but proficiency requires hundreds of hours of training and ongoing supervision to maintain fidelity to the technique. MI sessions are generally much longer than medical encounters, and dedicated entirely to the targeted behavioral outcome.

    The effectiveness of MI with initially resistant clients depends on the evolution of client talk from sustain talk to change talk over the course of a session. The counselor may listen tolerantly to a client's affirmative reasons for excess drinking, and minimization or denial of negative consequences for 15 minutes or more, before carefully using complex reflection and directive questioning to elicit change talk. The time constraints and other functional demands of a medical visit simply make this impossible.

    I do think there is evidence for negative consequences of some physicians behaviors that are highly MI inconsistent. Physicians should not scold, threaten or shame patients nor, as they sometimes do, claim that they are hurt personally by a patient's behavior. If a person has been told of the negative consequences of a behavior, and continues to do it, simply repeating the information about negative consequences is unlikely to be effective.

    Instead, in these situations, physicians can explore with patients the reasons why they continue to smoke, drink excessively, not take their pills, or whatever the case may be, and try to jointly problem solve around these issues. This seems to me to be an application of shared decision making. To propose that a physician apply some different construct, called MI, in this situation seems to me only to confuse the issue. I think medical practice has something to learn from MI but to propose that physicians truly practice MI is unrealistic. It's jut not the same job or skill set, and the situation doesn't allow it.

    Competing interests: ?? None

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    Confusion in practice and in the literature
    • Larry B Mauksch, Senior Lecturer

    Dear authors, Thank you for this stimulating and necessary synthesis. I share your interest in helping clinicians appreciate the value of integrating communication approaches to most effectively help our patients. That said, I would like to discuss some areas of confusion in the literature and in practice that remerged when reading your article.

    While the intent of motivational interviewing is to be patient cente...

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    Dear authors, Thank you for this stimulating and necessary synthesis. I share your interest in helping clinicians appreciate the value of integrating communication approaches to most effectively help our patients. That said, I would like to discuss some areas of confusion in the literature and in practice that remerged when reading your article.

    While the intent of motivational interviewing is to be patient centered, I fear that it is not applied in a patient centered way. In your case example, who chose the topic to address--diabetes? Most of the MI studies are focused on provider chosen issues (diseases). In the case of your 55 year old security guard, is diabetes really his core concern? Does food fill a deeper need (loneliness, lack of purpose in life). If you asked this man, "what in your life would you most like to change to improve your overall health?", would he say diabetes? Here I wish to cite goal oriented patient care [1]. The first step is having the patient name the goal. Is there really a difference in how we should talk about behavior change to people at the end of life or who are 55 year old night shift security guards? Motivational Interviewing is a brilliant synthesis of decades of psychotherapy. But its name, when mixed with the culture of medicine may be problematic. The term implies that if you use it (MI), you can get the patient to do what YOU want the patient to do. The brand appeals to a medical culture that is deeply rooted in a provider-centered way of functioning. Moreover, despite its immense popularity, there is limited evidence that physicians can use MI well. Most success appears to come when delivered by trained mental health providers or nurses [2].

    An approach to helping patients change behavior, Problem Solving, predates Motivational Interviewing by at least 20 years and its uptake by primary care providers may be better [3,4]. Problem solving and shared decision making overlap but are distinct. In your case example, helping the patient choose from a variety of next steps is "brainstorming" in problem solving terms and quite patient centered. Shared decision making may help the patient understand next steps and the pros and cons of various options but is it focused on health behavior change? Here I sense another area of confusion.

    Paradoxically, problem solving may feel more cut and dry and less patient centered compared to motivational interviewing but when combined with patient centered goal setting, it may have more promise in primary care as a patient centered health behavior change method. Including the spirit of motivational interviewing makes sense: partnership, empathy, highlighting patient efficacy, respecting patient autonomy and emphasizing patient commitment. At this point, I favor combining goal oriented practice with collaborative, curious problem solving, infused with the spirit of motivational interviewing.

    1. Reuben DB, Tinetti ME. Goal-oriented patient care--an alternative health outcomes paradigm. The New England journal of medicine. Mar 1 2012;366(9):777-779.
    2. Lundahl B, Moleni T, Burke BL, et al. Motivational interviewing in medical care settings: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. Patient education and counseling. Nov 2013;93(2):157-168.
    3. Schumann K, Sutherland J, Majid H, Hill-Briggs F. Evidence Based Behavioral Treatment for Diabetes: Problem Solving Therapy Diabetes Spectrum. 2011;24(2):64-69.
    4. Fitzpatrick SL, Schumann KP, Hill-Briggs F. Problem solving interventions for diabetes self-management and control: a systematic review of the literature. Diabetes research and clinical practice. May 2013;100(2):145-161.

    Competing interests: None declared

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